Jocelyn Campbell of jocelynsevents.com removes the last of the barriers for me to spit out a podcast. I want to thank all of the people that encouraged me to make a podcast and Jack Spirko of thesurvivalpodcast.com. I take on two questions in the beginning, the first is about raising chickens. The second is about my preference for doing permaculture inland. Then we get into the real discussion. I still didn't cover as much as I would like on this topic. The key is that this year I am still experimenting with saving energy on heating. The key is to heat myself instead of the whole house. And to prefer the use of conductive heat or radiant heat over convective heat. It all started with a thread at permies called "making the best of electric heat". In that thread I sorta journal about experiments and progress. I think the quality of this podcast is low. But that was part of what got me to make it: expectations on quality were really low. As time passes I will probably get better.